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	: '''ordered''' [http://iweb.castrov.cuug.ab.ca/mediawiki/index.php/Smcgear.net 2012-03-15 Brett]		: '''ordered''' [http://iweb.castrov.cuug.ab.ca/mediawiki/index.php/Smcgear.net 2012-03-15 Brett]
	:* never processed		:* never processed
-	: '''ordered''' [[Seattle Manufacturing Corporation/2012-06-14|2012-06-14]]	+	: '''ordered''' [[Seattle Manufacturing Corporation/2012-06-14|2012-06-14]] / in service
	* SMC NFPA 2" Prusik Minding Pelley (Model # NFPA152700) '''preferred product'''		* SMC NFPA 2" Prusik Minding Pelley (Model # NFPA152700) '''preferred product'''
	** 2 inch sheave, sealed bearings		** 2 inch sheave, sealed bearings

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Revision as of 16:31, 20 July 2012

total: (including GST) $2335

Contents 1 Immediate 1.1 Ropes 1.2 PMP 2 Vertical gear 2.1 Sit harness 2.2 Chest harness 2.3 Croll 2.4 Ascender 2.5 Descender 2.6 D mallion 2.7 Cow's tail 3 Accessories 3.1 Anchor plate 3.2 O ring 4 Individual gear 5 Future

Immediate

immediate need: total: $450 with GST $475

Ropes

• 2 new ropes (ordered/in service) total: $362.27

PMP

2 prusik minding pulleys @ ~$55 - $75 each = total ~$150

ordered 2012-03-15 Brett

• never processed

ordered 2012-06-14 / in service

• SMC NFPA 2" Prusik Minding Pelley (Model # NFPA152700) preferred product
  • 2 inch sheave, sealed bearings
  • 179g
  • variously reported as 43kN (3 sigma), meeting NFPA "G" requirements of 36kN
  • up to 13mm rope
  • US$61.20 SMC
  • US$61.20 Rock N Rescue
• Petzl Prusik Minding Pulley (may be discontinued)
  • up to 12.5mm rope, 2 inch sheave, sealed bearings
  • 35 kN
  • 335g
  • CAD$67.00 MEC
• Petzl Prusik Minder
  • 51mm sheave, sealed bearings
  • 36 kN
  • 295 g
  • Petzl
• SMC NFPA 3" Prusik Minding Pulley (Model #: NFPA158000)
  • up to 13mm rope, 2.5 inch tread, sealed bearings
  • 38 kN
  • 354g
  • US$82.85 SMC
  • $74.15 http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/climbdetail.cfm/SMC172
• CMI, 2" x 1/2" Single Prusik Minding Pulley - Steel Sideplates -Bushing
  • 35 kN
  • 437 g
  • US$68.95 Rock N Rescue
• CMI, 3" x 1/2" Single Prusik Minding Pulley
  • 71 kN
  • 794 g
  • US$98.10 Rock N Rescue

Vertical gear

vertical gear for 3 people: total: $1338 with GST $1405

Sit harness

3 sit harnesses @ ~$150 : total ~$450

Requirements:

• a low main attachment point, like a caving harness, to maximize throw when rope climbing
• universal sizing - don't know who will be using
• to be determined - maximum waist size

Vendors

• Carleton Rescue - lots of options
• MEC - lots of options

Products:

Possible:

• CMI Cavemaster Caving Harness
  • A low attachment point works well with Frog Climbing Systems
  • One size fits waists to 42in (107cm).
  • $115.50
  • $98.75 http://www.stagespot.com/product/CMI-HN-CAVEMASTER/CMI%20Cavemaster%20Harness
  • $115.50 http://www.trailspace.com/gear/cmi/cavemaster-caving-harness/
  • $115.00 http://www.adventureropegear.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=311
  • $85.31 http://www.nwbackpack.com/products/cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness_cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness.php

• CMI Vindicator Full Body Harness
  • one size
    • One-size-fits-most
  • $244.85
  • higher main attachment point means less efficient rope climbing
  • unclear how front belay attachment works
  • http://www.karstsports.com/20905.html $244.85
  • http://www.stagespot.com/product/CMI-HN-VINDICATOR/CMI%20Vindicator%20Harness $202.95
    • more detailed description
  • http://www.columbussupply.com/products/?productid=2390 $232.61
  • http://www.challengesunlimited.com/equipment/harness.htm $225.00
    • different photo, crosses in back

Discounted:

• Black Diamond - various - none seem compelling

• CAMP - various - none seem compelling

• CMC ProSeries Rescue Harness
  • Designed for Rope Rescue and Rappelling
  • Quick-connect buckles on the legs make donning and doffing fast and easy.
  • 3 sizes. Not universal sizing

• CMC ProTech Fire-Rescue Harness
  • 2 sizes. Not universal sizing

• Mammut - various - none seem compelling

• Petzl Falcon Ascent
  • rescue marketed
  • designed for rope ascent
  • two sizes - not universal

• Petzl Falcon
  • Lightweight seat harness for rescue
  • Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
  • Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
  • two sizes not universal sizing
    • size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 840 g
    • size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 930 g

• Petzl Falcon Mountain
  • Seat harness for mountain rescue
  • Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
  • Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
  • two sizes not universal sizing
    • size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 795 g
    • size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 830 g

• Petzl Fractio caving harness
  • Caving harness with double waistbelt
  • 2 sizes not universal sizing
    • C16 1 1 485 g / 17.1 oz 60 - 88 cm / 23.5 - 34.6 in 43 - 60 cm / 16,9 -23.5 in -
    • C16 2 2 592 g / 20.9 oz 75 - 103 cm / 29.5 - 40,5 in 50 - 72 cm / 19.7 - 28.3 in -

• Rock Empire - various - none seem compelling

• Wild Country - various - none seem compelling

• Yates - various - none seem compelling

Chest harness

• 3 chest harnesses @ ~$50 : total ~$150

Products:

• Black Diamond Vario Chest
  • 1 size
    • 24-46"
  • $37.95

• CAMP Figure 8 Chest Harness
  • 1 size fits most
  • $34.95

• CMI Adjustable Chest Harness
  • $37.60

discounted:

• Mammut Liberty Adjustable
  • no longer offered
• Petzl Top Croll
  • not independent of sit harness. Does this meet the standard?
  • designed for Petzl Falcon Ascent
• Petzl Top
  • not independent of sit harness. Does this meet the standard?
  • designed for Petzl sit harness

Croll

• 3 crolls @ $53 : total ~$165

Products:

• Petzl Croll preferred product
  • For single ropes between 8 and 13 mm in diameter
  • http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442629218&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690431
    • $53.00

• Camp Solo
  • $49.95
  • Rope Diameter: 8-13 mm

Ascender

no need for handle as frogging system does not require pulling with hand

requirements:

• • prefer no handle to limit placing out of reach

• 3 petzl basics @ $51 : total ~$153

Products:

• Camp Pilot
  • has handle
• Camp Solo
  • $49.95
• CMI Rope Walker
  • $71.55
• Petzl Ascension
  • has handle
• Petzl Basic preferred product
  • $51 http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442627787&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690431
• Wildcountry Ropeman

Descender

Needs to support 10.5mm to 13mm (PCES) rope

• 3 mini brake bar racks @ ~$100 : total $300
  • http://catalogue.carletonrescue.com/do/ppa/709/BMS_Long_Frame_Micro_Brake_Rack.html

D mallion

• 3 D mallions @ $15 : $45

Products:

• Petzl Omni

Cow's tail

• 3 sets of cow's tail and foot loops @ $25 : $75

Accessories

accessories: total $70 with GST $75

Anchor plate

• anchor plate @ ~$30 : ~$30

O ring

• 2 steel o-rings for MAP @ ~$20 : $40
  • http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?dept_id=1057&PHPSESSID=c5d563d10074eee536b02701cb833215

Individual gear

additional individual gear: total $357 with GST $380

• 6 sets of rope gloves @ $40 : $240
  • http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_listing.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302885690
• 6 safety glasses @ $15 : $75
• 6 safety goggles @ $7 : $42

Future

future:

• commercial bridle
• standardize and simplify our range of carabiners
• modernize pulleys
  • 5 single sheave 2" pulleys @ $100 : $500
    • http://www.rescuesystems.com/cart2/asp/select_item.asp?item=610012B

• /I-beam rigging clamps