Rope Rescue/Equipment/Need

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-	* anchor plate @ ~$30 : ~$30	+
	=== O ring ===		=== O ring ===
	* 2 steel o-rings for MAP @ ~$20 : $40		* 2 steel o-rings for MAP @ ~$20 : $40

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Revision as of 20:40, 20 March 2013

Contents 1 Priorities 2 Budget 3 Vertical gear 3.1 Sit harness 3.2 Chest harness 3.3 Croll 3.4 Ascender 3.5 Descender 3.6 D mallion 3.7 Cow's tail 4 Accessories 4.1 O ring 4.2 Folding saw 5 Individual gear 5.1 Gloves 5.2 Glasses 5.3 Goggles 6 Gear replacement 6.1 Pulley 7 Gear enhancement

Priorities

1. Anchor plate $30
2. 2 #O rings $40
3. 3 #Chest harnesses $150
   • chest harness before sit harness b/c some members have sit harnesses
4. 3 #Descenders $300
5. 3 #Sit harnesses $450
6. 3 #D mallions $45
   • fit to sit harness
7. 3 #Cow's tails & foot loops $75
   • fit to sit harness
8. 3 #Ascenders - petzl basics $153
   • could use Prusiks instead
9. 3 #Crolls $165
   • after sit harness, b/c must match
   • can rig with 2 petzl basics instead
10. #Folding saw
11. 5 single sheave 2" #Pulleys @ $100 : $500
12. 6 rope #Gloves $240
13. 6 safety #Glasses $75
14. 6 safety #Goggles $42

Budget

total: (including GST) $2335

• Budget year 2010-2011
  • (done) 2 new ropes (ordered/in service) total: $362.27
• Budget year 2011-2012: $500
  • (done) 2 prusik minding pulleys $142.74
  • (done) 2012-06-13 Wuth invoice rope rescue equipment $67.99 cheque 1133
  • carry forward: $289.27
• Budget year 2012-2013: $500
  • carry forward: $289.27 : total $789.27
  • (done) 2012-12-07 Wuth invoice NFPA rope standards documents $96.03 paid cheque 1198
  • #Anchor plate $30
  • 2 #O rings $40
  • 3 #Chest harnesses $150
  • 3 #Descenders $300

Vertical gear

vertical gear for 3 people: total: $1338 with GST $1405

Sit harness

3 sit harnesses @ ~$150 : total ~$450

Requirements:

• a low main attachment point, like a caving harness, to maximize throw when rope climbing
• universal sizing - don't know who will be using
• to be determined - maximum waist size

Vendors

• Carleton Rescue - lots of options
• MEC - lots of options

Products:

Possible:

• CMI Cavemaster Caving Harness
  • A low attachment point works well with Frog Climbing Systems
  • One size fits waists to 42in (107cm).
  • $115.50
  • $98.75 http://www.stagespot.com/product/CMI-HN-CAVEMASTER/CMI%20Cavemaster%20Harness
  • $115.50 http://www.trailspace.com/gear/cmi/cavemaster-caving-harness/
  • $115.00 http://www.adventureropegear.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=311
  • $85.31 http://www.nwbackpack.com/products/cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness_cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness.php

• CMI Vindicator Full Body Harness
  • one size
    • One-size-fits-most
  • $244.85
  • higher main attachment point means less efficient rope climbing
  • unclear how front belay attachment works
  • http://www.karstsports.com/20905.html $244.85
  • http://www.stagespot.com/product/CMI-HN-VINDICATOR/CMI%20Vindicator%20Harness $202.95
    • more detailed description
  • http://www.columbussupply.com/products/?productid=2390 $232.61
  • http://www.challengesunlimited.com/equipment/harness.htm $225.00
    • different photo, crosses in back

Discounted:

• Black Diamond - various - none seem compelling

• CAMP - various - none seem compelling

• CMC ProSeries Rescue Harness
  • Designed for Rope Rescue and Rappelling
  • Quick-connect buckles on the legs make donning and doffing fast and easy.
  • 3 sizes. Not universal sizing

• CMC ProTech Fire-Rescue Harness
  • 2 sizes. Not universal sizing

• Mammut - various - none seem compelling

• Petzl Falcon Ascent
  • rescue marketed
  • designed for rope ascent
  • two sizes - not universal

• Petzl Falcon
  • Lightweight seat harness for rescue
  • Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
  • Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
  • two sizes not universal sizing
    • size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 840 g
    • size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 930 g

• Petzl Falcon Mountain
  • Seat harness for mountain rescue
  • Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
  • Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
  • two sizes not universal sizing
    • size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 795 g
    • size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 830 g

• Petzl Fractio caving harness
  • Caving harness with double waistbelt
  • 2 sizes not universal sizing
    • C16 1 1 485 g / 17.1 oz 60 - 88 cm / 23.5 - 34.6 in 43 - 60 cm / 16,9 -23.5 in -
    • C16 2 2 592 g / 20.9 oz 75 - 103 cm / 29.5 - 40,5 in 50 - 72 cm / 19.7 - 28.3 in -

• Rock Empire - various - none seem compelling

• Wild Country - various - none seem compelling

• Yates - various - none seem compelling

Chest harness

• 3 chest harnesses @ ~$50 : total ~$150

Products:

• Black Diamond Vario Chest
  • 1 size
    • 24-46"
  • $37.95

• CAMP Figure 8 Chest Harness
  • 1 size fits most
  • $34.95

• CMI Adjustable Chest Harness
  • $37.60

discounted:

• Mammut Liberty Adjustable
  • no longer offered
• Petzl Top Croll
  • not independent of sit harness. Does this meet the standard?
  • designed for Petzl Falcon Ascent
• Petzl Top
  • not independent of sit harness. Does this meet the standard?
  • designed for Petzl sit harness

Croll

• 3 crolls @ $53 : total ~$165

Products:

• Petzl Croll preferred product
  • For single ropes between 8 and 13 mm in diameter
  • http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442629218&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690431
    • $53.00

• Camp Solo
  • $49.95
  • Rope Diameter: 8-13 mm

Ascender

no need for handle as frogging system does not require pulling with hand

requirements:

• • prefer no handle to limit placing out of reach

• 3 petzl basics @ $51 : total ~$153

Products:

• Camp Pilot
  • has handle
• Camp Solo
  • $49.95
• CMI Rope Walker
  • $71.55
• Petzl Ascension
  • has handle
• Petzl Basic preferred product
  • $51 http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442627787&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690431
• Wildcountry Ropeman

Descender

Needs to support 10.5mm to 13mm (PCES) rope

• 3 mini brake bar racks @ ~$100 : total $300
  • http://catalogue.carletonrescue.com/do/ppa/709/BMS_Long_Frame_Micro_Brake_Rack.html

D mallion

• 3 D mallions @ $15 : $45

Products:

• Petzl Omni

Cow's tail

• 3 sets of cow's tail and foot loops @ $25 : $75

Accessories

accessories: total $70 with GST $75

• Anchor plate

O ring

• 2 steel o-rings for MAP @ ~$20 : $40
  • http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?dept_id=1057&PHPSESSID=c5d563d10074eee536b02701cb833215

Folding saw

for cutting branches away from trees

Individual gear

additional individual gear: total $357 with GST $380

Gloves

• 6 sets of rope gloves @ $40 : $240
  • http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_listing.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302885690

Glasses

• 6 safety glasses @ $15 : $75

Goggles

• 6 safety goggles @ $7 : $42

Gear replacement

• standardize and simplify our range of carabiners

Pulley

• modernize pulleys
  • 5 single sheave 2" pulleys @ $100 : $500
    • prefer sealed bearings for dirty industrial environments
    • http://www.rescuesystems.com/cart2/asp/select_item.asp?item=610012B

Gear enhancement

• commercial bridle

• /I-beam rigging clamps (training)