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== Requirements ==
* 3 sit harnesses @ ~$150 : total ~$450
* a low main attachment point, like a caving harness, to maximize throw when rope climbing
* universal sizing - don't know who will be using
* maximum waist size: Dan waist 38

== Products ==
=== CMI Cavemaster Caving Harness ===
* [http://www.cmi-gear.com/collections/harnesses/products/har31-cavamaster-harness Manufacturer's description]
** A low attachment point works well with Frog Climbing Systems
** One size fits waists to 42in (107cm).
** Requires a D mallion
** US$148.95+shipping from [http://www.cmi-gear.com/collections/harnesses/products/har31-cavamaster-harness CMI]
** US$117.18+shipping from [http://www.stagespot.com/cmi-cavemaster-harness.html Stage Spot]
** US$213.90+shipping from [http://www.trailspace.com/gear/cmi/cavemaster-caving-harness/ Trail Space]
** US$125.00+shipping from [http://www.adventureropegear.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=311 Adventure Rope Gear]
** US$105.52+shipping from [http://www.nwbackpack.com/products/cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness_cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness.php NW Backpack]

=== CMI Vindicator Full Body Harness ===
* [http://www.cmi-gear.com/collections/harnesses/products/har16-vindicator manufacturer description]
** one size
*** One-size-fits-most
** higher main attachment point means less efficient rope climbing 
** unclear how front belay attachment works
** doesn't require chest harness or D mallion
* US$286.85+shipping from [http://www.cmi-gear.com/collections/harnesses/products/har16-vindicator CMI]
* US$286.65+shipping from [http://www.karstsports.com/20905.html Karst Sports]
* US$228.44+shipping from [http://www.stagespot.com/cmi-vindicator-harness.html Stage Spot]
** more detailed description
* US$259.35+shipping from [http://www.columbussupply.com/products/?productid=2390 Columbus Supply]
** http://www.challengesunlimited.com/equipment/harness.htm $225.00
*** different photo, crosses in back

=== Discounted ===
* [http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/climb/harnesses Black Diamond - various] - none seem compelling

* [http://www.camp-usa.com/products/categories/camp-harnesses.asp CAMP - various] - none seem compelling

* [http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?CatalogID=1&dept_id=2121&rootNode=0&pid=7&PHPSESSID=eb63883ae6c07ecfe04322a38d138b47 CMC ProSeries Rescue Harness]
** Designed for Rope Rescue and Rappelling 
** Quick-connect buckles on the legs make donning and doffing fast and easy.
** 3 sizes.  ''Not universal sizing''

* [http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?CatalogID=1&dept_id=1929&rootNode=0&pid=7&PHPSESSID=eb63883ae6c07ecfe04322a38d138b47 CMC ProTech Fire-Rescue Harness]
** 2 sizes.  ''Not universal sizing''

* [http://www.mammut.ch/en/productOverview/products_climbing_gear_klettergurte_ca/Harnesses.html;jsessionid=95B66DE02B4443CFFD0ECD25E361A675 Mammut - various] - none seem compelling

* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/rescue-harnessess/falcon-ascent Petzl Falcon Ascent]
** rescue marketed
** designed for rope ascent
** ''two sizes - not universal''

* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/rescue-harnessess/falcon Petzl Falcon]
** Lightweight seat harness for rescue
** Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
** Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
** two sizes ''not universal sizing''
*** size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 840 g
*** size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 930 g

* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/rescue-harnessess/falcon-mountain Petzl Falcon Mountain]
** Seat harness for mountain rescue
** Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
** Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
** two sizes ''not universal sizing''
*** size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 795 g
*** size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 830 g

* [http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/verticality/harnesses/caving-harnesses/fractio Petzl Fractio] caving harness
** Caving harness with double waistbelt
** 2 sizes ''not universal sizing''
*** C16 1 1 485 g / 17.1 oz  60 - 88 cm / 23.5 - 34.6 in 43 - 60 cm / 16,9 -23.5 in  -
*** C16 2 2 592 g / 20.9 oz 75 - 103 cm / 29.5 - 40,5 in 50 - 72 cm / 19.7 - 28.3 in -

* [http://www.rockempire.com/catalog?category=harnesses Rock Empire - various] - none seem compelling

* [http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/Products/NewVisionSeriesHarnesses/ Wild Country - various] - none seem compelling

* [http://www.yatesgear.com/rescue/roperescue/harnesses/index.htm Yates - various] - none seem compelling

== Vendors ==
* [http://catalogue.carletonrescue.com/do/nsca/16/1/Rescue_Harnesses.html Carleton Rescue] - lots of options
* [http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_listing.jsp?bmLocale=en&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690983&newSortType=productreview&newSortOrder=descending MEC] - lots of options

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 == Requirements ==
+* 3 sit harnesses @ ~$150 : total ~$450
 * a low main attachment point, like a caving harness, to maximize throw when rope climbing
 * universal sizing - don't know who will be using
 * maximum waist size: Dan waist 38
-* 3 sit harnesses @ US$117.18 : total US$351.54
-* totals:
-** base: US$351.54
-** optional: -
-** maximum: US$351.54
-** shipping, taxes, duty
 == Products ==
 === CMI Cavemaster Caving Harness ===
-''preferred option b/c of low attachment point
 * [http://www.cmi-gear.com/collections/harnesses/products/har31-cavamaster-harness Manufacturer's description]
 ** A low attachment point works well with Frog Climbing Systems
 ** One size fits waists to 42in (107cm).
 ** Requires a D mallion
-** country of origin: not specified
-* price
-** US$117.18+shipping 2016-03-28 from [http://www.stagespot.com/cmi-cavemaster-harness.html Stage Spot]
-*** ''preferred supplier
-** US$125.00+shipping from [http://www.adventureropegear.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=311 Adventure Rope Gear]
 ** US$148.95+shipping from [http://www.cmi-gear.com/collections/harnesses/products/har31-cavamaster-harness CMI]
+** US$117.18+shipping from [http://www.stagespot.com/cmi-cavemaster-harness.html Stage Spot]
 ** US$213.90+shipping from [http://www.trailspace.com/gear/cmi/cavemaster-caving-harness/ Trail Space]
-** US$105.52+shipping 2016-03-26 from [http://www.nwbackpack.com/products/cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness_cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness.php NW Backpack]
+** US$125.00+shipping from [http://www.adventureropegear.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=311 Adventure Rope Gear]
-*** ''discounted: cannot be reached by phone
+** US$105.52+shipping from [http://www.nwbackpack.com/products/cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness_cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness.php NW Backpack]
 === CMI Vindicator Full Body Harness ===
@@ Line 39: / Line 28: @@
 * US$228.44+shipping from [http://www.stagespot.com/cmi-vindicator-harness.html Stage Spot]
 ** more detailed description
+* US$259.35+shipping from [http://www.columbussupply.com/products/?productid=2390 Columbus Supply]
+** http://www.challengesunlimited.com/equipment/harness.htm $225.00
+*** different photo, crosses in back
 === Discounted ===
-==== Black Diamond ====
 * [http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/climb/harnesses Black Diamond - various] - none seem compelling
-==== CAMP ====
 * [http://www.camp-usa.com/products/categories/camp-harnesses.asp CAMP - various] - none seem compelling
-==== CMC ====
 * [http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?CatalogID=1&dept_id=2121&rootNode=0&pid=7&PHPSESSID=eb63883ae6c07ecfe04322a38d138b47 CMC ProSeries Rescue Harness]
 ** Designed for Rope Rescue and Rappelling
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 ** 2 sizes.  ''Not universal sizing''
-* CMC/Roco Universal Rescue Seat Harness
-** ''no universal sizing
-* CMC/Roco Universal Rescue Full Body Harness
-** ''no universal sizing
-==== HeighTec ====
-* [https://www.heightec.com/ HeighTec]
-** Heightec Zero G Harness
-*** no longer promoted on HieghTec website
-*** Waist: 29"- 59" Leg: 20"- 32"
-*** CA$ +shipping from [http://catalogue.carletonrescue.com/do/ppa/2731/Heightec_Zero_G_Harness.html Carlton Rescue]
-==== Mammut ====
 * [http://www.mammut.ch/en/productOverview/products_climbing_gear_klettergurte_ca/Harnesses.html;jsessionid=95B66DE02B4443CFFD0ECD25E361A675 Mammut - various] - none seem compelling
-==== Petzl ====
-* Petzl 8003 Adjustable Full Body Harness
-** no 2nd tie-in
 * [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/rescue-harnessess/falcon-ascent Petzl Falcon Ascent]
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 *** C16 2 2 592 g / 20.9 oz 75 - 103 cm / 29.5 - 40,5 in 50 - 72 cm / 19.7 - 28.3 in -
-==== Rock Empire ====
 * [http://www.rockempire.com/catalog?category=harnesses Rock Empire - various] - none seem compelling
-==== Wild Country ====
 * [http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/Products/NewVisionSeriesHarnesses/ Wild Country - various] - none seem compelling
-==== Yates ====
 * [http://www.yatesgear.com/rescue/roperescue/harnesses/index.htm Yates - various] - none seem compelling
+== Vendors ==
+* [http://catalogue.carletonrescue.com/do/nsca/16/1/Rescue_Harnesses.html Carleton Rescue] - lots of options
+* [http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_listing.jsp?bmLocale=en&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690983&newSortType=productreview&newSortOrder=descending MEC] - lots of options