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Revision as of 21:05, 8 June 2010

Critiques/2009-05-05/Sug17:

Suggestion #17: Suggest continued use of carpooling to search in e.g. Lethbridge. Better safety on way back when tired
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: medium
Difficulty to implement: done

preplan 2009-05-19

  • agreed

preplan 2010-06-15

  • no value: already doing


Critiques/2009-05-05/Sug18:

Suggestion #18: Suggest having arrangement to call-in when driving alone back from a tiring search (e.g. night search). To confirm safe arrival
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: high
Difficulty to implement: done
    • preplan 2009-05-19
      • someone on team should take responsibility to arrange for call-in
  • preplan 2010-05-15
    • already policy
    • should practice in night mock search
    • should be on list for search managers
  • preplan 2011-11-15
    • focus on issue of driving alone
    • what does the call accomplish after the accident, doesn't address safety issue.
    • if balking from tasking agency, we can rent room and charge tasking agency. Or we can pay out of contingency fund.
    • similar issue if the roads are bad
    • training?
    • everyone is responsible for safety, everyone should feel free to make the suggestion
    • make it really easy for them to stay
    • ultimately it's their call
    • when safety issue is handled, no need for accountability
    • notification on return, only if traveling against safety suggestion to wait
      • alternative can let spouse know when should arrive
    • (review tasked: Brett Wuth) write up as rule of thumb


Critiques/2009-05-05/Sug19:

Suggestion #19: Suggest encourage members in field to discuss overhead decisions after search as learning opportunity
Committee handling: training
Value to PCSAR mandate: not rated
Difficulty to implement: not rated
  • preplan 2009-05-19
    • give big picture briefing, rationale


Critiques/2009-05-05/Sug20:

Suggestion #20: Suggest everyone get experience of working comms and command post
Committee handling: training
Value to PCSAR mandate: not rated
Difficulty to implement: not rated


Critiques/2009-05-05/Sug21:

Suggestion #21: Suggest better learning if everyone can see handling of first approach to subject.
Committee handling: training
Value to PCSAR mandate: not rated
Difficulty to implement: not rated


Critiques/2010-03-21/Sug14:

Suggestion #14: + field communication
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: none
Difficulty to implement: done

focus on strengths of certain people as command post radio operator

  • already doing, never comes up in real searches


Critiques/2010-03-21/Sug15:

Suggestion #15: be clear on understanding - confirm
Committee handling: unassigned
Value to PCSAR mandate: none
Difficulty to implement: not rated
  • use of "no duff"
  • focus on safety
  • on mock confusing "track" as human vs. sled
  • doesn't come up as issue


Critiques/2010-03-21/Sug23:

Suggestion #23: Reports to distinguish types of tracks, footprints vs. sleds
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: low
Difficulty to implement: done
  • repeat
  • new trainees were the ones that were confusing
  • should be straigtened out right away by radio operator or search manager


Critiques/2010-03-21/Sug44:

Suggestion #44: facilitate vehicle access to search site
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: low
Difficulty to implement: hard
  • shutdown highway to get SAR teams into resort
  • difficulty of dust
  • tasking agency

only the RCMP can shut down road, we might request

  • only one incident where has came up
  • lots of other possible entries onto the road
    • could assume road closed, when unexpected traffic


Critiques/2010-03-21/Sug46:

Suggestion #46: use people that know the area, even if family
Committee handling: unassigned
Value to PCSAR mandate: none
Difficulty to implement: not rated
  • search management team reluctant to use land owner because he was also family member. Very useful to use people that know area. Could have explained roads and trails. Transport.
  • overhead team discuss how much to include family members
  • be prepared to deal with consequences of including family
  • hasn't occurred on any real searches


Critiques/2010-03-21/Sug49:

Suggestion #49: assign task through central pt
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: low
Difficulty to implement: done
  • incident specific (don't expect to ever happen again)
  • use CMR Safety Office

2013-01-15 preplan: MOU with CMR should solve further issues


Preplan/2010-04-20/Sug1:

Suggestion #1: Get awning or E-Z up for SARCAR
Committee handling: equipment
Value to PCSAR mandate: medium
Difficulty to implement: medium

See also Critiques/2010-03-21/Sug25.

$600.

E-Z Up: From Kite Festival. Takes longer to set up than awning.

Is there room to store in SARCAR? Or have in equipment trailer.

Often have other forms of shade.

Can be difficult to use in weather.

Have radios and table outside to get rid of crowd inside.


Preplan/2010-05-18/Sug1:

Suggestion #1: update old forms in SARCAR
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: medium
Difficulty to implement: medium

2010-05-18

  • to do: Ron will provide Brett list of what's needed
  • to do: Brett will print

2010-06-15


Preplan/2010-05-18/Sug2:

Suggestion #2: Improved heating system for SARCAR
Committee handling: preplan
Value to PCSAR mandate: high
Difficulty to implement: medium

Current:

Idling burns gas. Noisy.


Option 1:

RV heater. Use 20 or 30lb bottle of propane. Can be ducted (fan forced, e.g. into the back) or not.

Compartment in back driver side for propane, vented to outside.

Have to idle the bus to use existing heaters. With wind, risk of carbon monoxide.

Can extend exhaust to take it further away.

Self contained, don't have to set up other stuff (like generator).

RV heater would be much quieter

Would have to get professional installer. material guess: $1200.

Total guess: $2500.

Reluctant to sink too much money in heating system in old bus.


Option 2: Electric

Consider portable electric heaters and bigger generator.


To Do: Ron to get idea of costs.


Preplan/2010-05-18/Sug3:

Suggestion #3: update inventory list
Committee handling: equipment
Value to PCSAR mandate: medium
Difficulty to implement: medium

Already have draft copy from ~5 years ago.

  • 2010-05-18 get list of what's in each rope bag
    • to do: Brett to look for
  • 2010-05-18 Dave Cox offers vehicle mounted Public Address system


Other action items of Preplan Committee.

Facts about Preplan/Committee/To prioritizeRDF feed
Committee handling Suggestion/Committee/List/preplan  +, Suggestion/Committee/List/training  +, Suggestion/Committee/List/unassigned  +, and Suggestion/Committee/List/equipment  +
Description Suggest continued use of carpooling to search in e.g. Lethbridge. Better safety on way back when tired  +, Suggest having arrangement to call-in when driving alone back from a tiring search (e.g. night search). To confirm safe arrival  +, Suggest encourage members in field to discuss overhead decisions after search as learning opportunity  +, Suggest everyone get experience of working comms and command post  +, Suggest better learning if everyone can see handling of first approach to subject.  +, + field communication  +, be clear on understanding - confirm  +, Reports to distinguish types of tracks, footprints vs. sleds  +, facilitate vehicle access to search site  +, use people that know the area, even if family  +, assign task through central pt  +, Get awning or E-Z up for SARCAR  +, update old forms in SARCAR  +, Improved heating system for SARCAR  +, and update inventory list  +
Difficulty to implement done  +, not rated  +, hard  +, and medium  +
Full page name Preplan/Committee/To prioritize  +
Review tasked  +
Sequence number 17  +, 18  +, 19  +, 20  +, 21  +, 14  +, 15  +, 23  +, 44  +, 46  +, 49  +, 1  +, 2  +, and 3  +
Suggestion list Preplan/Committee  +
Value to PCSAR mandate medium  +, high  +, not rated  +, none  +, and low  +
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