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== Priorities ==
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high priority
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# 3 {{subpage|Cow's tail}}s & foot loops ~CAD$75
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#* footloop and one leg of cow's tail required for ascending
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#* cow's tail needed for passing rebelays
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# 5 single sheave 2" {{subpage|Pulley}}s ~CAD$430
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# 3 {{subpage|Ascenders}} - petzl basics ~CAD$260
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#* could use Prusiks instead
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# 3 {{subpage|Croll}}s ~CAD$260
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#* can use 2 petzl basics less efficiently instead, until can afford Crolls
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# 24 {{subpage|Carabiner}}s ~CAD$560
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medium priority
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# {{subpage|Anchor plate}} ~CAD$91
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# {{subpage|Bridle}} ~CAD$230
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low priority
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# 2nd sent of 5 single sheave 2" {{subpage|Pulley}}s ~CAD$430
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#* for mirrored systems
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# 2 {{subpage|MPD}}s ~CAD$2080
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=== Obtained / No longer needed ===
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* {{subpage|I-beam rigging clamps}}
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* {{subpage|Rope}}
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* 2 {{subpage|O ring}}s $40
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* {{subpage|Manual}}s
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* 3 {{subpage|Chest harness}}es $150
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* {{subpage|Webbing}} link chest harness to sit harness
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* {{subpage|Personal Prusiks}}
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* 3 {{subpage|Descender}}s $300
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* 3 {{subpage|Sit harness}}es $450
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* 3 {{subpage|D maillon}}s $45
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* {{subpage|Folding saw}}
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* {{subpage|2 prusik minding pulleys}}
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* 6 pair rope {{subpage|Gloves}} $240
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* 6 safety {{subpage|Glasses}} $75
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* 6 safety {{subpage|Goggles}} $42
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== Budget ==
total: (including GST) $2335
total: (including GST) $2335
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* Budget year 2010-2011
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== Immediate ==
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** (done) 2 new ropes ([[Rope Rescue/Equipment/2010 rope purchase|ordered]]/in service) total: $362.27
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immediate need: total: $450 with GST $475
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* Budget year 2011-2012: $500
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=== Ropes ===
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** (done) {{subpage|2 prusik minding pulleys}} $142.74
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* 2 new ropes ([[Rope Rescue/Equipment/2010 rope purchase|ordered]]/in service) total: $362.27
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** (done) {{link|User:Brett Wuth/Expenses/2012-06-13}}
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** carry forward: $289.27
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=== PMP ===
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* Budget year 2012-2013: $500
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2 prusik minding pulleys @ ~$55 - $75 each = total ~$150
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** carry forward: $289.27 : total $789.27
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: '''ordered''' [http://iweb.castrov.cuug.ab.ca/mediawiki/index.php/Smcgear.net 2012-03-15 Brett]
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** (done) {{link|Members:Brett Wuth/Expenses/2012-11-16 NFPA standards purchase}}
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:* never processed
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** {{subpage|Anchor plate}} $30
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: '''ordered''' [[Seattle Manufacturing Corporation/2012-06-14|2012-06-14]] / in service
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** 2 {{subpage|O ring}}s $40
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* SMC NFPA 2" Prusik Minding Pelley (Model # NFPA152700) '''preferred product'''
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** 3 {{subpage|Chest harness}}es $150
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** 2 inch sheave, sealed bearings
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** 3 {{subpage|Descender}}s $300
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** 179g
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** variously reported as 43kN (3 sigma), meeting NFPA "G" requirements of 36kN
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** up to 13mm rope
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** US$61.20 [http://www.smcgear.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=542&category_id=156&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=25 SMC]
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** US$61.20 [http://www.rocknrescue.com/acatalog/SMC-2-inch-x-one-half-inch-Single-Prusik-Minding-Pulley.html Rock N Rescue]
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* Petzl Prusik Minding Pulley (may be discontinued)
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** up to 12.5mm rope, 2 inch sheave, sealed bearings
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** 35 kN
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** 335g
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** CAD$67.00 [http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441931649&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690507 MEC]
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* Petzl Prusik Minder
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** 51mm sheave, sealed bearings
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** 36 kN
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** 295 g
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** [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/verticality/pulleys/prusik-pulleys/minder Petzl]
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* SMC NFPA 3" Prusik Minding Pulley (Model #: NFPA158000)
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** up to 13mm rope, 2.5 inch tread, sealed bearings
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** 38 kN
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** 354g
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** US$82.85 [http://www.smcgear.net/pulleys?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=550&category_id=156 SMC]
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** $74.15 http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/climbdetail.cfm/SMC172
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* CMI, 2" x 1/2" Single Prusik Minding Pulley - Steel Sideplates -Bushing
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** 35 kN
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** 437 g
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** US$68.95 [http://www.rocknrescue.com/acatalog/CMI-2-inch-x-one-half-inch-Single-Prusik-Minding-Pulley-Steel-Sideplates-Bushing.html Rock N Rescue]
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* CMI, 3" x 1/2" Single Prusik Minding Pulley
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** 71 kN
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** 794 g
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** US$98.10 [http://www.rocknrescue.com/acatalog/CMI-3-inch-x-one-half-inch-Single-Prusik-Minding-Pulley-Steel-Sideplates-Bushing.html Rock N Rescue]
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== Vertical gear ==
== Vertical gear ==
vertical gear for 3 people: total: $1338 with GST $1405
vertical gear for 3 people: total: $1338 with GST $1405
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=== Sit harness ===
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* {{subpage|Sit harness}}
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3 sit harnesses @ ~$150 : total ~$450
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* {{subpage|Chest harness}}
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* a low main attachment point, like a caving harness, to maximize throw when rope climbing
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* universal sizing - don't know who will be using
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* '''to be determined - maximum waist size'''
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Vendors
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* [http://catalogue.carletonrescue.com/do/nsca/16/1/Rescue_Harnesses.html Carleton Rescue] - lots of options
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* [http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_listing.jsp?bmLocale=en&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690983&newSortType=productreview&newSortOrder=descending MEC] - lots of options
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Possible:
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* [http://www.cmi-gear.com/catalog/harnesses/cavemaster.asp CMI Cavemaster Caving Harness]
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** A low attachment point works well with Frog Climbing Systems
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** One size fits waists to 42in (107cm).
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** $115.50
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** $98.75 http://www.stagespot.com/product/CMI-HN-CAVEMASTER/CMI%20Cavemaster%20Harness
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** $115.50 http://www.trailspace.com/gear/cmi/cavemaster-caving-harness/
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** $115.00 http://www.adventureropegear.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=311
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** $85.31 http://www.nwbackpack.com/products/cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness_cmi_cavemaster_seat_harness.php
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* [http://www.cmi-gear.com/catalog/harnesses/vindicator.asp CMI Vindicator Full Body Harness]
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** one size
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*** One-size-fits-most
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** $244.85
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** higher main attachment point means less efficient rope climbing
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** unclear how front belay attachment works
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** http://www.karstsports.com/20905.html $244.85
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** http://www.stagespot.com/product/CMI-HN-VINDICATOR/CMI%20Vindicator%20Harness $202.95
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*** more detailed description
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** http://www.columbussupply.com/products/?productid=2390 $232.61
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** http://www.challengesunlimited.com/equipment/harness.htm $225.00
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*** different photo, crosses in back
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* [http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/climb/harnesses Black Diamond - various] - none seem compelling
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* [http://www.camp-usa.com/products/categories/camp-harnesses.asp CAMP - various] - none seem compelling
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* [http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?CatalogID=1&dept_id=2121&rootNode=0&pid=7&PHPSESSID=eb63883ae6c07ecfe04322a38d138b47 CMC ProSeries Rescue Harness]
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** Designed for Rope Rescue and Rappelling
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** Quick-connect buckles on the legs make donning and doffing fast and easy.
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** 3 sizes. ''Not universal sizing''
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* [http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?CatalogID=1&dept_id=1929&rootNode=0&pid=7&PHPSESSID=eb63883ae6c07ecfe04322a38d138b47 CMC ProTech Fire-Rescue Harness]
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** 2 sizes. ''Not universal sizing''
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* [http://www.mammut.ch/en/productOverview/products_climbing_gear_klettergurte_ca/Harnesses.html;jsessionid=95B66DE02B4443CFFD0ECD25E361A675 Mammut - various] - none seem compelling
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* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/rescue-harnessess/falcon-ascent Petzl Falcon Ascent]
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** rescue marketed
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** designed for rope ascent
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** ''two sizes - not universal''
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* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/rescue-harnessess/falcon Petzl Falcon]
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** Lightweight seat harness for rescue
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** Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
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** Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
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** two sizes ''not universal sizing''
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*** size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 840 g
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*** size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 930 g
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* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/rescue-harnessess/falcon-mountain Petzl Falcon Mountain]
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** Seat harness for mountain rescue
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** Four equipment loops: two large rigid ones in front for easy access to gear and two small flexible ones in back that will not interfere with wearing a backpack
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** Two slots for CARITOOL tool holder
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** two sizes ''not universal sizing''
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*** size 1: waistbelt: 70 - 120 cm, leg loops: 50 - 65 cm, weight: 795 g
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*** size 2: waistbelt: 80 - 140 cm, leg loops: 60 - 75 cm, weight: 830 g
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* [http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/verticality/harnesses/caving-harnesses/fractio Petzl Fractio] caving harness
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** Caving harness with double waistbelt
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** 2 sizes ''not universal sizing''
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*** C16 1 1 485 g / 17.1 oz 60 - 88 cm / 23.5 - 34.6 in 43 - 60 cm / 16,9 -23.5 in -
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*** C16 2 2 592 g / 20.9 oz 75 - 103 cm / 29.5 - 40,5 in 50 - 72 cm / 19.7 - 28.3 in -
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* [http://www.rockempire.com/catalog?category=harnesses Rock Empire - various] - none seem compelling
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* [http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/Products/NewVisionSeriesHarnesses/ Wild Country - various] - none seem compelling
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* [http://www.yatesgear.com/rescue/roperescue/harnesses/index.htm Yates - various] - none seem compelling
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=== Chest harness ===
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* 3 chest harnesses @ ~$50 : total ~$150
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* [http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/climb/harnesses/vario-chest-harness Black Diamond Vario Chest]
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** 1 size
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*** 24-46"
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** $37.95
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* [http://www.camp-usa.com/products/harnesses/figure-8-chest-harness.asp CAMP Figure 8 Chest Harness]
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** 1 size fits most
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** $34.95
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* [http://www.cmi-gear.com/catalog/harnesses/chest.asp CMI Adjustable Chest Harness]
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** $37.60
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* [http://www.mammut.ch/en/productDetail/211000750_v_3070/Liberty+Adjustable.html;jsessionid=95B66DE02B4443CFFD0ECD25E361A675 Mammut Liberty Adjustable]
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** ''no longer offered''
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* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/verticality/harnesses/harnesses-difficult-access/top-croll Petzl Top Croll]
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** not independent of sit harness. Does this meet the standard?
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** ''designed for Petzl Falcon Ascent''
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* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/verticality/harnesses/work-positioning-and-fall-arrest-harnesses/top Petzl Top]
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** not independent of sit harness. Does this meet the standard?
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** ''designed for Petzl sit harness''
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=== Croll ===
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* 3 crolls @ $53 : total ~$165
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* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/verticality/rope-clamps/rope-clamps-progression/croll Petzl Croll] '''preferred product'''
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** For single ropes between 8 and 13 mm in diameter
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** http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442629218&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690431
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*** $53.00
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* [http://www.camp-usa.com/products/ascenders/solo.asp Camp Solo]
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** $49.95
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** Rope Diameter: 8-13 mm
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=== Ascender ===
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no need for handle as frogging system does not require pulling with hand
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requirements:
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** prefer no handle to limit placing out of reach
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* 3 petzl basics @ $51 : total ~$153
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* [http://www.camp-usa.com/products/ascenders/pilot-left.asp Camp Pilot]
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** has handle
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* [http://www.camp-usa.com/products/ascenders/solo.asp Camp Solo]
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** $49.95
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* [http://www.cmi-gear.com/catalog/ascenders/ropewalker.asp CMI Rope Walker]
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** $71.55
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* [http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/ascenders-2/ascension Petzl Ascension]
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** has handle
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* [http://www.petzl.com/us/pro/verticality/rope-clamps/rope-clamps-hauling-and-lifting/basic Petzl Basic] '''preferred product'''
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** $51 http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442627787&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302690431
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* [http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/Products/AscentDecentBelay/RopemanMK1/ Wildcountry Ropeman]
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=== Descender ===
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Needs to support 10.5mm to 13mm (PCES) rope
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* 3 mini brake bar racks @ ~$100 : total $300
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** http://catalogue.carletonrescue.com/do/ppa/709/BMS_Long_Frame_Micro_Brake_Rack.html
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=== D mallion ===
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* 3 D mallions @ $15 : $45
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* [http://www.petzl.com/en/pro/special-aluminum-carabiners/omni Petzl Omni]
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=== Cow's tail ===
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* {{subpage|Croll}}
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* 3 sets of cow's tail and foot loops @ $25 : $75
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* {{subpage|Ascender}}
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* {{subpage|Descender}}
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* {{subpage|D mallion}}
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* {{subpage|Cow's tail}}
== Accessories ==
== Accessories ==
accessories: total $70 with GST $75
accessories: total $70 with GST $75
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=== Anchor plate ===
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* {{subpage|Anchor plate}}
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* anchor plate @ ~$30 : ~$30
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* {{subpage|O ring}}
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=== O ring ===
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* {{subpage|Folding saw}}
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* 2 steel o-rings for MAP @ ~$20 : $40
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* edge pro
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** http://www.cmcrescue.com/product.php?dept_id=1057&PHPSESSID=c5d563d10074eee536b02701cb833215
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== Individual gear ==
== Individual gear ==
additional individual gear: total $357 with GST $380
additional individual gear: total $357 with GST $380
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* 6 sets of rope gloves @ $40 : $240
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* {{subpage|Personal Prusiks}}
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** http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_listing.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302885690
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* {{subpage|Gloves}}
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* 6 safety glasses @ $15 : $75
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* {{subpage|Glasses}}
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* 6 safety goggles @ $7 : $42
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* {{subpage|Goggles}}
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* {{subpage|Manual}}s
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== Future ==
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== Gear replacement ==
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* standardize and simplify our range of {{subpage|Carabiner}}s
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* commercial bridle
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* {{subpage|Pulley}}
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* standardize and simplify our range of carabiners
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* modernize pulleys
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** 5 single sheave 2" pulleys @ $100 : $500
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*** http://www.rescuesystems.com/cart2/asp/select_item.asp?item=610012B
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* [[/I-beam rigging clamps]]
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== Gear enhancement ==
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* {{subpage|Heat shrink}}
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* {{subpage|Equipment tags}}
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* supplementary {{subpage|Rope}}
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* commercial {{subpage|Bridle}}
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* commercial {{subpage|Lashing}}
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* {{subpage|I-beam rigging clamps}} (training)

Current revision

Contents

[edit] Priorities

high priority

  1. 3 Cow's tails & foot loops ~CAD$75
    • footloop and one leg of cow's tail required for ascending
    • cow's tail needed for passing rebelays
  2. 5 single sheave 2" Pulleys ~CAD$430
  3. 3 Ascenders - petzl basics ~CAD$260
    • could use Prusiks instead
  4. 3 Crolls ~CAD$260
    • can use 2 petzl basics less efficiently instead, until can afford Crolls
  5. 24 Carabiners ~CAD$560

medium priority

  1. Anchor plate ~CAD$91
  2. Bridle ~CAD$230

low priority

  1. 2nd sent of 5 single sheave 2" Pulleys ~CAD$430
    • for mirrored systems
  2. 2 MPDs ~CAD$2080

[edit] Obtained / No longer needed

[edit] Budget

total: (including GST) $2335

[edit] Vertical gear

vertical gear for 3 people: total: $1338 with GST $1405

[edit] Accessories

accessories: total $70 with GST $75

[edit] Individual gear

additional individual gear: total $357 with GST $380

[edit] Gear replacement

[edit] Gear enhancement

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